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Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - Anuradha Menon
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At the Windows Hardware Engineering Conference (WinHEC) 2008, USB-IF President, Jeff Ravencraft revealed that the new specifications for USB 3.0 would be fully released on November 17 at the SuperSpeed USB Developers Conference in San Jose. The USB 3.0 architecture is also named SuperSpeed USB due to its incredible 5 gigabit per second (Gbps) data transfer speed.

SuperSpeed USB Standard-A connector 
SuperSpeed USB 3.0
Standard-A internal pins
The USB 3.0 specification guarantees an increased performance of 10 times compared to the capabilities of the current USB 2.0, providing a bandwidth of 600 MB/s second. Devices employing USB 3.0 specifications are planned to be available to consumers in 2009 or 2010 and would be backwards compatible with USB 2.0 and USB 1.1.

“Delays have held USB 3.0 back,” said Lars Giusti of Microsoft. However, he predicts that the fully signed-off USB 3.0 specifications would only be presented to the implementers in the USB 3.0 Promoter Groups in 2009. Subsequently, it would take approximately another year until broad-scale product deployment of host controllers, devices, and systems utilizing USB 3.0 would be available in the market. 

President and general manager of the chipset business unit at AMD, Phil Eisler, released a statement saying, "The future of computing and consumer devices is increasingly visual and bandwidth intensive. Lifestyles filled with HD media and digital audio demand quick and universal data transfer. USB 3.0 is an answer to the future bandwidth need of the PC platform.”

 SuperSpeed USB Mini-B connector
SuperSpeed USB 3.0 Mini-B connector
Microsoft is currently in the planning stage of selecting which operating system to incorporate the USB 3.0 specifications into. “The Microsoft USB core team is currently evaluating which operating systems we should support USB 3.0 on. It's a difficult decision and a difficult choice because there are all these moving parts,” said Giusti.

“Our early indications tell us that most partners think that we should support USB 3.0 on at least Windows Vista.”

According to early information supplied by Microsoft the improvement in transferring large files using USB 3.0 based hardware will be considerable.

Performance comparison: Transfer of 25GB HD movie:

USB 1.1: 9.3 hours

USB 2.0: 13.9 minutes

USB 3.0: 70 seconds

SuperSpeed USB Standard-A connector 
SuperSpeed USB 3.0 Standard-A connector
TFOT has previously looked at USB 3.0 in September 2007, predicting USB 3.0 to arrive in 2008. We have also written on the MultiSwitch, the first USB sharing hub, which is a new extension to USB that will enable sharing of various USB peripherals between computers and allows the sharing of information and content from devices such as DVD players, cameras, printers, and scanners between laptops and desktops using a simple USB cable. Other advanced data transfer technologies covered by TFOT include Georgia Electronic Design Center’s  wireless technology, which  demonstrates transfer rates of 15 gigabits per second (Gbps) at a distance of 1 meter, 10 Gbps at 2 meters, and 5 Gbps at 5 meters.

Additional information on USB 3.0 can be obtained at Intel’s website.

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Comments & Replies (32)
even faster than the hard disk speed?   (11/12/08 - 20:47 - by qiyunima)
if windows got usb 3.0, the speed will be too faster to let hard disk
down. our hard disk speed not faster than usb 3.0, how could widows
work with it? do we need to update our system to raid 0?
wtf?!   (11/13/08 - 9:25 - by i are 1337 sauce)
I think that widows will do just fine, they have already gone through
lots of stress and sadness losing their husbands, so i think they will
be able to handle this.
widows, haha   (11/13/08 - 9:39 - by Tyler)
Nice comment sauce, that was funny as hell. I almost spit out my
coffee once I realized what you were referring to.
HUH?   (11/13/08 - 10:13 - by Tito )
Dude we just did the math.
How can USB 3.0 transfer 25GB at 70sec with a Transfer rate of
600MB/s?
(25 gigabytes) / (70 seconds) = 365.714286 MBps. I'm I missing
something here?
USB 3.0 speed   (11/13/08 - 13:12 - by Iddo Genuth)
Tito - quick answer - yes you are missing something - 600MB/s is the
theoretical max limit 365MB/s was demonstrated by MS in real life.
Language   (11/13/08 - 14:42 - by ME)
Minus one for misutilizing the English language.
Still Not As Fast as IEEE   (11/13/08 - 17:59 - by Al)
This is already inferior to FW400, and certainly FW800. It\'s
obsolete.
Reply ( speed )   (11/14/08 - 11:51 - by Pr1XseL)
USB 2.0 max speed limit is 480 Mbit/s = 60mb per sec
USB 3.0 max speed 4.8 Gbit/s = 600mb per sec = 42gigabites in 70
seconds

When your computer is fast enough for it!
IEEE what?   (11/14/08 - 16:10 - by AI2)
Yeah sure, it\'s slower than FW but how much of computers have FW?
uhm, 10-20%?
IEEE   (11/14/08 - 16:59 - by BadAl)
Umm Al and Al2, you might want to have another look at Firewire.. it's
only 400Mbit and 800Mbit. USB 3 is ~4800Mbit..
IEEE   (11/15/08 - 0:09 - by Al)
No, USB 3.0 has a max rate of 600MBs. It's average speed, like all
USB, is significantly lower - it looks slower than FW400 which is
constant 400, while FW800 is constant 800. IT'll cost you $10 to put
them in . YOu want real speed? Try HDMI and DVI. The fact they
aren't standard with everything is just idiocy.
IEEE...   (11/15/08 - 0:10 - by Al)
Oh, and I haven't bought a computer w/o firewire in a loooooooong
time. I've bought about ten in the last two years for home and work.
Speed Table   (12/10/08 - 13:13 - by bspds)
USB1.1 = 12 Mbps
FW400 = 400 Mbps
USB2 = 480 Mbps
FW800 = 800 Mbps
SCSI160 = 1280 Mbps
SATA1 = 1500 Mbps
SCSI320 = 2560 Mbps
SATA2 = 3000 Mbps
USB3 = 4800 Mbps
HDMI1.2 = 4950 Mbps
SATA3 = 6000 Mbps
HDMI1.3 = 10200 Mbps
Release Date   (01/23/09 - 11:51 - by User)
Does anyone know when it is going to be released??
Can't wait...
xDDDD
Thanks   (02/05/09 - 13:00 - by TulsaTech)
Thanks for the speed table bspds.
esata?   (03/02/09 - 17:37 - by really)
i think usb 3.0 will be useful but we already have HDMI and eSATA,
makes it kind of redundant i think, isn\'t this more a battle of one
company\'s tech VS another to get themselves more money.

i dont think usb 3.0 is really needed.
USB 3.0 advantage   (03/10/09 - 22:06 - by connectr)
The one advantage USB 3.0 may have over eSATA is the length of the
cable. eSATA is limited to 2m, while USB 3.0 is supposed to be 5m max.
USB Market Share   (03/19/09 - 9:44 - by BB)
Firewire is great, but USB is more popular. Over 6 billion USB
connector sets have been sold. As long as USB is going to be
prevalent, it's a very good thing that the performance is getting
better.
Storage devices   (03/27/09 - 15:09 - by Neomat)
Anyway someone thought about mass storage speed ? Or removable media
speed ? ... they're a lot below actual (HDMI 1.2/1.3 or lastest
SCSI...)transfer buses even with SSD coupled in raid0 the only use
offered is uncompressed HD video and audio from a playing device to a
TV... I don't know if even next generation platforms will have real
use for this
Weird comparison   (04/03/09 - 6:12 - by askshameer)
hey bspds,
I think SCSI and SATA are not plug-n-play device. whey should we
compare with other standards?
usb 3.0   (06/25/09 - 8:34 - by wellington)
quero um desses
usb3   (07/21/09 - 19:54 - by franco g)
questa do rocha
USB   (07/28/09 - 7:43 - by Emal Rahmani)
Will the next generation of Apple Macbooks have USB 3.0 built-in as
soon as USB 3.0 is released?
What about Power...   (08/06/09 - 11:46 - by chowett)
Most of the comments are trying to compare specifications of different
products. It’s like comparing a lorry to a train. Sure both can carry
things but in different ways and with different limitations, one of
which is power…
USB 2.0 = 5V, 500mA (2.5W)
Firewire (IEEE 1394a and b)= 30v, 2A
eSATA 2 = N/A
USB 3.0 = 5V, 900mA (4.5W)
FireWire 3200 = Not sure, simliar to 1394B?
eSATA 3.0 = 6000Mbps (notes cases) and rumoured power output as well.

Although firewire 3200 is slower than USB 3.0, it has the advantage of
power. If eSATA gets a decent power output (say 30W+) it will be the
future – depending of course on physical distance limitations. USB 3.0
has one major advantage over all other though: Cost.

As Al pointed out you can add a firewire card to your PC for little
money, but what about the peripherals that use it. I can’t think of
many *CONSUMER* devices that support firewire 800. Why? poor memory
perhaps, or just too expensive to make and not enough support for it.
usb area   (08/12/09 - 1:13 - by sundar)
i want to know the perfect dimensions of the USB layout...means height
and width of USB3.0 when it is drawn with layout designers
Mbit and MB   (08/14/09 - 12:06 - by Randell)
You may want to look up info in MegaBits and MegaBytes. There are 8
bits in a byte. FW800 is actually 800Mbits. So divide 800 by 8 and you
get 100MB (MB is MegaBytes). Therefore FW800 has a transfer rate of
100MB as compared to USB 3.0's 600MB.
USB3.0 and FW800   (12/11/09 - 11:26 - by Greg)
Whomever said that FW800 is faster than USB3.0 does not know what he's
talking about.
USB 3.0: 4800 Megabits per second

FW800: 800 Megabits per second

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