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New Antimatter Engine Design Sunday, October 29, 2006 - Iddo Genuth Home >> Articles >> Space
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A team of scientists is currently working with NASA to develop a new form of space propulsion technology based on positrons. This revolutionary antimatter engine will require only a few milligrams of positrons to send a spaceship to Mars. Facing many hurdles along the way, this is the first time some of the real problems of building a real antimatter engine are being confronted.
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Nuclear propulsion systems for rockets have been studied by NASA since the early 1960's under the Nuclear Engine for Rocket Vehicle Application (NERVA) program, subsequently cancelled in 1972. In 2003, the nuclear space propulsion idea was revived by the Prometheus Project still under development. Although the nuclear propulsion option looks like a prime candidate for the future Mars mission, its disadvantages (mainly extreme radioactivity) led people like Dr. Gerald A. Smith, founder of Positronics Research in Santa Fe, New Mexico, to suggest a bold new alternative – antimatter. First predicted by the British physicist Paul Dirac in 1928 (and experimentally confirmed 4 years), antimatter is comprised of antiparticles that annihilate when they come in contact with ordinary particles, producing a burst of energy in the form of energetic photons. NASA's Institute for Advanced Concepts (NIAC) recently funded Dr. Smith's research to examine the potential applications of antimatter as a fuel for a manned mission to Mars. Dr. Smith and his team at Positronics Research suggested to NASA three possible propulsion concepts, all based on positrons (or anti-electrons).
Interview with Positronics ResearchTFOT recently conducted an interview with Dr. Smith to learn more about the potential of positron-based space propulsion systems.Q: Were you the first to come up with the idea for a positron-based propulsion system?
Q: You mentioned that positrons emit less powerful gamma rays than antiprotons. Is the energy produced by positrons still sufficient for a useful propulsion system? The low energy of the positron annihilation gamma rays make these very easy to contain and turn into propulsive energy. But, it takes 1836 times more positrons to get the same amount of energy as one antiproton. The antiproton annihilation energy is very hard to contain and turn into propulsive energy. In fact, the only way I know to use antiprotons is to make them create nuclear fission reactions in materials like uranium, which results in one of the nasty sides of nuclear fission, namely the presence of radioactive isotopes created by the engine. Q: Can the positron engine perform liftoff or is it more like an ion engine, which can only be used in space? A: Yes to the first question, and no to the second question. But, for many practical reasons we prefer for the first trials to assemble the spacecraft in LEO (low-earth orbit) and power it with positrons from LEO into space. Q: Is this mainly a safety issue or are there other considerations? A: It is partly a safety issue and partly an economic issue. 10 milligrams (mg) (a Mars mission) of positrons contains the energy of 428 tons of TNT. Or, to put it another way, 10 mg of positrons contains the energy of 23 external fuel tanks on the Space Shuttle. We would want to make sure that we know how to handle the positrons with utter confidence before attempting a liftoff from Earth. This would come with time. (Recall the early attempts to launch rockets from Earth in the 1920-1940's with all the mishaps.) The other reason is economy. It takes a lot of energy to lift the spacecraft into LEO. We know how to do this with chemical fuels. It is much cheaper to put the parts of the spacecraft into LEO with chemical fuels than lift the whole thing into LEO using positrons. Q: Would you describe in a few words the three positron-based propulsion concepts you have come up with, how they work, and what their main advantages and disadvantages are? A: The three positron-based propulsion systems we suggested to NIAC were:
Q: How do you intend to deal with the two major problems of antimatter propulsion systems - the creation of antimatter and finding a way to store it for long periods of time? You cannot hold 10 mg of bare positrons in a magnetic trap. The "space charge" forces are enormous and the "positron plasma" blows itself apart. But, with electrically neutral atoms containing positrons, this is not a problem. Our work with positronium is on-going. My sponsors implore me to not discuss details at this time. Suffice it to say we have had some very encouraging results.
Q: What is the time frame for a possible positron-based mission to Mars? A: A launch to Mars is conceived for the 2030 time frame. |
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Interesting - I never thought it would be possible in the near future to create an antimatter engine. However, this seems to be remarkably similar one would find in a science fiction novel. Why not create a nuclear propulsion engine similar to the canceled Project Orion? The dangers of nuclear fallout ought to be about equal to the dangers of an unproven positron engine, or, if it isn't, nuclear propulsion systems could be sent to geosychronous orbit and then take off. It has the added advantage of already being thoroughly researched, and thus could be realized far more quickly than any antimatter engine. And, straying from my earlier subject, the Orion Crew Exploration Vehicle is currently under design by NASA. I find it unlikely that such a speculative engine as one using positrons would be used to travel to Mars (It's only like 1/3 AU). We should use positron engines to travel to areas outside of the Solar System |
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Although the idea of the positron engin is exciting, it is not possible in the near future, due to a lack of antimatter. It would tak CERN twenty billion years to create enough antimatter to feul a mission to Mars. |
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Sadly the above is unlikely to happen, positronium has an average lifetime of 125 picoseconds, or in the triplet state 142 nanoseconds, meaning you would have to make the positronium, load it into your spacecraft, launch and fly to mars in less than a second, or your fuel tank would blow itself to pieces. This would mean traveliing several thousand times the speed of light, which is not possible according to all current, tested, theory. |
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Do a Google search on the crashed Roswell spacecraft in 1947. "Tiny anti-matter engine." LOL. |
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HG writes: \"...or, if it isn\'t, nuclear propulsion systems could be sent to geosychronous orbit and then take off.\" Won\'t help. The earths magnetosphere\'s tail extends for hundreds of earth-radii. Radiation released inside that zone tends to come back |
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i have try too run car use a water. |
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I hate to bust their bubble, antimatter has been used in Indiana to produce electricity for over 5 years. The TENPES project. Yet they are correct on storage. It is contained in magnetic fields, basic science 101. electricityjim@att.net |
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This will be a needed technology for space travel in any scope or scale. International Space Agency Website: http://www.isa-hq.com Email: public-affairs@isa-hq.com |
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this sounds awesome imagine if they can eventually make it so we can use this form of energy to power our land vehicles like large buses/tractors/R.V\'S you could literally travel without ever having to refuel ( the face that most land vehicles don\'t weigh anywere near spaceships. email me with ur ideas ! nomadic99@hotmail.com |
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Ok, so we like string theory, whch is infact the wave structure of matter ... so can someone explain the wave structure of Anti-matter ? how does the frequency / harmonics / reverberation play out ... |
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lol string theory... Of all the over-complicated incomplete theories, string theory is probably the least likely to be realistic. If you asked the leading string-theorist (whoever that might be) that very same question, I bet they\'d beat around the bush for awhile, claiming to understand, and then change the subject. |
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Just a quick question my apologies if i do sound lack of a better word a noob at science. But with the Gas Core would the gas core by product be redirected an recycled. For example if it is super heated plasma couldn't you use that to power other things? Same with the gamma radiation? Cyphon it off and use it in other places e.g. powering work stations. Or intject the plasma else where and break it down to be recycled. Just out of curiousity. From the land of OZ Perth |
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I guess another quick question would be instead of using a normal rocket design i guess the question would be instead of (Swimming terminology) Freestyle for propulsion why not like a breast stroke. I guess what i am trying to say instead of a stream of energy why not an arc/wave. |
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Dear Folks, Have we ever wondered, why are we not able to land on the moon again with these sophisticated science and technological advancements while with meagre the NASA made it in 1969.Is that a hoax then? |
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I WANT TO KNOW THE DETAILS OF NEW ENGINE TECHNOLOGY, NEW AIRINTAKE SYSTEM DEVELOPMENT,NEW COOLING SYSTEM DEVELOPMENT,NEW FUEL SYSTEM FOR AN AUTOMOBILE ENGINE AS WELL AS NEW EXHAUST SYSTEM TECHNOLOGY |
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antimatter engine can make possible space transport.it may create revolution.it can change the universe.it help to achieve a speed which we ever think. |
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everyone who says its not possible is naive. anything can happen in the future. you don't know everything like you think you do kiddos. ya'lls facts aren't even accurate please back them up? |
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scientist have found antimatter particles to be pretty much the same except for the charge being the opposite and with recent discovery, direct charge-parity violation. anti matter doesnt exactly follow the same laws of physics as does normal matter. and on string theory try switching to quantum chromodynamics. |
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Im working on a two foot particle accelerater for vehicles and energy, called the flux copaciter |
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Since as early as I can remember it has been my dream to invent an anti-gravity device/machine so that I can travel at will....Hello again Aussieland. 8-/ |
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| I will build the honeymoon suite on the moon | |||
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| International Space Plane (ISP) Program | |||
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Lucifer will build the mars bar, The Most High will build the Honeymoon suite |
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| Science is the salvation of humanity. | |||
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I read somwhere that there are now storages that can keep positrones fot two weeks. I guess that they have to resolve antimatter production and storage first. Maybe they should watch more of Star trek. LOL |
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Although they are right about the level of difficulty of creating anti-protons, they're wrong about the difficulty of using them. Read some of Robert L. Forward's research work on antimatter propulsion. Either way, antimatter is the way to go for low-mass high-energy fuel for interplanetary (and interstellar) journeys. |
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well suppose we make positrons in large amounts and manage to store them somehow how are going to manage to creation of energy by destruction of matter and antimatter a totally foolproof and safe method? how to control the ultimately powerful reaction that will release the energy? we could have a DISAISTER but on such a huge scale thet all things in an area of hundreds of sq.miles could be completely annahilated even with a mg of antimatter. A VERY DANGEROUS TECHNOLOGY FOR HUMANITY we could soon have antimatter bombs . one has to be pessimistic always while dealing with power of such magnitude!!! |
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An antimatter engine can be used for mars but it can also be used to travel at interstellar distances |
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Antimatter can be dangerous but also necesary for a mission to alpha centauri,the closest star to earth. |
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An antimatter engine could be possible but somehow it may somehow take about 20 years or 100 years or something. |
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I will build the starship enterprise.with 1,000 crew members and 100,000 colonists |
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| I will also establish a colony on mars and on alpha centauri. | |||
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I think the starship omega is a good idea but i want to know what speed your ship will go because my ship the enterprise will go at tem times the speed of light. |
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i think the enterprise is more likely the better ship. but i think even in ST tng they could only take about 6000 people . have a ship the size of the enterprise fitted with anti-matter drive would make going to other planets much faster.in the st.tng, the ship is powered by collecting atoms with a thinkingcalled a bussard collector. |
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| one problem, deep space is a vacuum, no atoms in vacuums. | |||
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nothing works as it dus on tv !.but maybe some one will make it work some day .i hope so becaus i would like to go to the moon or mars by the time i leave school. |
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I think it is very powerful & the engine may be comfortable for spaceship to gain more speed than today's spaceship. can you send me more information about this. My Email Add Is:subhojitbanerjee2@gmail.com |
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I THINK IT ISMORE POWERFUL THAN ANY OTHER . IT IS A NEW SYSTEM FOR THE SHORTAGE OF FUEL |
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Have Patents pending. I am familiar with their work but they don't address taking positrons and using them to produce acceleration. There is no need to store positrons if you can make them as you need them. |
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As for the engine, you guys make fun of the TV show Star Trek; yes it\'s TV but have you stop and though about it. In the 40\'s \'The Philidelpha Experment\' they made a ship disappear into \'hyper\' or \'Sub\' space highly charged plamsa from an antimater engine could be used to focus a magnetic field somewhat like the experment bending the laws of physics enabling the ship to travel faster than light using convential propulsion. The other aspects would be powering the ship with the same engine. the current problem is producing the antimatter and shielding from the gamma radiation. lets figure this out first then we will have it. |