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Some People Never Learn Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - Einat Rotman Home >> News >> General Science
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Researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Human Cognitive and Brain Sciences in Leipzig, Germany have found a genetic factor that affects our ability to learn from our errors. The scientists demonstrated that men carrying the A1 mutation, which reduces the amount of dopamine D2 receptors in the brain, are less successful at learning to avoid mistakes than men who do not carry this genetic mutation. This finding has the potential to improve our understanding of the causes of addictive and compulsive behaviors.
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Tilmann Klein and Dr. Markus Ullsperger at the Max Planck Institute for Human Cognitive and Brain Sciences in Leipzig, Germany, believe they have found the genetic cause for this "stubbornness". They discovered that a single genetic mutation can determine whether people repeat their mistakes. This mutation, named the A1 mutation, is found in about one-third of the population and causes a reduction in the amount of D2 receptors in the brain, which are the docking sites for dopamine. Dopamine is a neurotransmitter – a chemical participating in the relay of signals between nerve cells and target cells. Among other behavior and cognition functions, dopamine plays a key role in the process of learning, in the feeling of pleasure, and in motivation and reward (i.e. learning to repeat behaviors that maximize rewards). The researchers theorized that the lower output of dopamine in people with fewer D2 receptors leads them to repeat their mistakes, while people with more D2 receptors comprehend that a certain action is a mistake the first time they carry it out and do not feel any desire to repeat it. To examine this theory, Klein and Ullsperger studied 26 healthy men, half of which carried the A1 gene variant (allele). At first, the volunteers were shown sets of two symbols and were asked to select one. Each choice was followed by positive or negative feedback represented by a smiling or frowning face, respectively. The researchers then tested whether the men had learnt to choose the symbol that had the most positive feedback and avoid the one that led to the most negative feedback.
"Our subjects worked in an artificial laboratory setting, the reward and punishment they received was highly abstract, whereas a real world situation in which you could learn from feedback is normally much more complex. More research is needed to show how our findings apply to real world situations," Klein says. According to the German team, the decreased sensitivity to negative consequences of actions as a result of D2 receptor reduction may also explain why the A1 gene variant has previously been linked to addictive and compulsive behaviors. Even so, "It's our strong belief that the variant we investigated here is not the only cause for example of an addiction - but maybe it contributes to a predisposition for developing an addiction," Klein stresses. TFOT previously covered a similar experiment that demonstrated the connection between high levels of brain activity and the placebo effect (reward anticipation). The press release of the German team's finding is available in this webpage of the Max-Planck Institute for Neurological Research. |
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I do not understand how an unwillingness to give up--stubborness-- is termed a failure to learn from one's mistakes. Never giving up is the number one recipe for success. |
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There is a big difference between not giving up and not learning. Stubbornly doing the same thing or taking the same approach over and over again, despite negative feedback each time is not the key to success. The key to success is modifying your approach or picking a different, more realistic goal when faced with repeated failure. |
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Um...giving up in the face of \\\'failure\\\' presumes each attempt is \\\"identical\\\" to the previous. That\\\'s virtually never true. Persistence and refusing to give up are also hallmarks of genius. Perhaps it has to do with the relative \\\'value\\\' placed on the \\\"negative feedback\\\". But how many men would succeed if they gave up after 1 wrong answer. Repetition of results, good or bad, is scientific \\\"research\\\". Giving up after too-few tries results in an overall higher failure rate. Also -- not sure about the relation to addiction. Addiction is usually caused dopamine stimulation, but if A1 variation humans have fewer dopamine receptors, wouldn\\\'t that mean they wouldn\\\'t be as greatly affected by addictive drugs? Perhaps it is the humans without the A1 variation that are more susceptible to \\\"addictive\\\" behaviors since they perceive the differences in dopamine reinforcement more clearly? |
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Really, no need for abstraction, just check if the A1 mutation is present in compulsive casino and lottery players/buyers. Those guys/girls will always do the same thing: 1 - Today I feel lucky. 2 - Some other guy DID win. 3 - Buy some tickets. 4 - Lose. 5 - Repeat from number 1. All this even when presented with the statistical evidence and concrete evidence that you CANNOT make money out of gambling, the house always wins... Now THAT is what I call failure to learn from mistake. It's not about perseverance, it's about being stupidly hopeful in the face of reality. |
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Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein |
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Can someone find out whether President Bush has this mutation in his genes? |
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| I believe Robert explained it perfectly. I concur. Kudos Robert! | |||
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i think they should test the "stay the course" fellows in the white house right now, they don't seem to learn from there mistakes. |
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Not giving up and learning from mistakes are both factors in playing a musical instrument for example! I play piano and sometimes I will have to play the same passage over 200-300 times before I get it note perfect! Some notes will go wrong in the same way every time, so learning from mistakes is vital to minimise the number of notes that this happens to! Also, the more mistakes you learn from, the more likely you are to be able to recover if you accidentally slip up on the night itself! People that give up after 5 tries never make it to be top musicians! Having said that, if some problem persists, I will eventually try tackling it from a different angle! It just depends on what you class as giving up! I think the kind of thing they're talking about here is actually less to do with giving up and more to do with carrying on! Not giving up at something that yields a positive outcome in the end is very different from carrying on with something that is always going to be negative! ~epat |
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They have clearly found something interesting here but, as the discussion above shows, the conclusion drawn is less firm. |
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If you read the article, it plainly tells you in the experiment a "choice was followed by positive or negative feedback". The hope of how this research will be used is eventually to single out those that will not do as they are told. You must see that the science speaks to much more than just trying to help us poor stubborn folk. What the powers at be want are people that will immediately respond in a predictable way to stimuli without having to enforce anything. |
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I was going to comment, but it looks like this area is reserved for those who have not read the article... |
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I have to be a member of this unfortunate, dopamine deficient group, because the behaviors described in this article are just like my own; I always leave work to the last minute and remain absurdly optimistic about my ability to complete it until I\'ve reached the deadline. I really hope this research leads to advances in cognitive behavioral therapy. Genetic predisposition isn\'t the same as genetic predestination, and if 1/3 of the population remains relatively productive while bearing this gene then obviously it can be overcome. I wonder if the results are any different in women. |